Prabhupāda: Kali-yuga has begun five thousand years ago.
Allen Ginsberg: Oh. Began five thousand years ago.
Kīrtanānanda: But this wave within Kali-yuga, in which Hare Kṛṣṇa
increases and then diminishes, is about ten thousand years, and that
began five hundred years ago.
Prabhupāda: Kali-yuga, the duration of life of Kali-yuga is 432,000's of
years. Out of that, we have passed five thousand years. There is
balance, 427,000's of years. Out of that, 10,000 years is nothing.
Allen Ginsberg: Where is all this...?
Prabhupāda: Vedic literature.
Allen Ginsberg: What...?
Prabhupāda: Padma Purāṇa. Purāṇas.
Allen Ginsberg: Bhāgavata Purāṇa.
Prabhupāda: Bhāgavata Purāṇa.
Allen Ginsberg: Has the detailed analysis of what goes on within the Kali-yuga?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Oh, yes, yes. I'll read you sometimes.
Allen Ginsberg: There are translations of that. There are some translations of that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In the Twelfth Canto, the Kali-yuga descriptions are there.
Allen Ginsberg: Twelfth Canto.
Prabhupāda: Twelfth Canto. And you will find that all the descriptions are coming to be true.
Guest 1: True.
Prabhupāda: Just like there is one statement, svīkaram eva udvahe: "Marriage will be performed simply by agreement." Now that is being done. And lāvaṇyaṁ keśa-dharaṇam (SB 12.2.6).
"People will think that he has become very beautiful by keeping bunch
of hairs." That is coming true. These are written there. All things are
there in Bhāgavata history.
Allen Ginsberg: Well, in the Bhāgavata Purāṇa is there also provision for the Caitanya cult?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣākṛṣṇam (SB 11.5.32). We have given that in that book, our Teachings of Lord Caitanya. That is the first quotation there.
Allen Ginsberg: So it's on this quotation from Bhāgavata Purāṇa that Caitanya built His system?
Prabhupāda: No, no. That is program already presented, and He came to
execute the program. Just like our meeting is already programmed; I come
and execute it. That's all. That was previous. Clearly it is said, "In
the Kali-yuga, the Supreme Lord comes as one who always chants the holy
name of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is Śrī Kṛṣṇa Himself, whose complexion is
yellow." Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Eleventh Canto, Fifth Chapter, 32nd verse.
Allen Ginsberg: It's in there.
Prabhupāda: So we have accepted Lord Caitanya as Kṛṣṇa not fanatically.
There are evidences in Mahābhārata, in Upaniṣads, in Purāṇas, in
Bhāgavata, in all Vedic scripture.
Allen Ginsberg: Well, then, within this period of ten thousand years,
only those who hear Kṛṣṇa's name and worship Kṛṣṇa by chanting...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kīrtanād eva kṛṣṇasya mukta-saṅgaḥ paraṁ vrajet (SB 12.3.51). That is also stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
Allen Ginsberg: So only those who practice Kṛṣṇa chanting can attain mokṣa.
Prabhupāda: They become immediately liberated and go back to home, back to Godhead.
Allen Ginsberg: And everybody else gets involved deeper and deeper in the yuga.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes, yes. So if anyone believes in the śāstras, they
should take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is intelligence, to take
advantage of authorized scriptures.
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